Comments on: Freelancer’s Survival Guide: Online Networking 2 (Networking Part Eight) https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/ Writer, Editor, Fan Girl Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:17:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Geri Jeter https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-960 Tue, 04 May 2010 02:56:45 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-960 The York household has gone one better by creating a fun-to-follow alter ego, Bad Agent Sydney. The blog is engaging, it is fun, and it is also instructive.

While we aren’t all that clever, the lesson to be learned here is the engaging and fun parts. I also follow a food blog called cookingwithamy.blogspot.com. She shares her experiences in and around the food world (like going to the Pillsbury Bake-Off and reporting on it), recipes, book reviews, you name it. You never know what she is going to be covering, so it is interesting to sign up for notices of her new blog entries.

Neil’s party approach is so good. Most of us work so hard at our various projects and jobs, that I do think this “networking” thing has to remain fun or have amazing instructional value (like Kris and Dean’s posts), or people just drift away.

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By: Russ Crossley https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-951 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:21:11 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-951 Thanks, Patrick. Excellent point about twitter etc being more social than a business networks.

My concern with on line networking is the ease with which such communication can be misunderstood. Because I’m as old as dirt I was in the workplace when e-mail was the new thing and have seen ugly (and I mean UGLY) incidents occur over e-mail. Not to me, because I’m careful (Canadian, eh? ), but certainly to others, that damaged relationships.

I find in e-mail sometimes, because people are at a keyboard rather than face to face, they say things they may not say in person. I can’t imagine what people say when they can hide behind a user name.

The other thing I’ve seen is people on their “crackberry”, or other communication device, like a drug addict. Very scary.

I know myself fairly well and if I really had fun on twitter etc then I could easily see me dropping into the sink hole.

My response to the need to be social is to go to the local coffee shop with freinds and actually talk in person. I may be a little old fashioned but good conversation and a nice cup of coffee in the real, rather than the virtual, world works, at least for me.

My 2 cents.

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By: Carolyn Nicita https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-943 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:14:48 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-943 Thanks for the insights and ideas, everyone.

I have an idea that might address two ideas brought up —

1. Networking as online party.
Great comparison. For this I’m going to use a convention as an example, because it’s a party with a lot of little parties going on — panels, demonstrations, conversations in the hall.

2. Balancing/organizing visits.

You want to plan your experience so you make sure you don’t miss the panels and parties you discussed with your friends during the car ride to the convention.

Currently I plan out which sites to visit every day, and which to visit every week.

I could put them in a list of bookmarks or online on del.icio.us, or even copy and paste from a text file. But I list them in a free password program called KeePass, just ’cause I’m a geek. People usually use this for keeping passwords, but with it I can quickly right-click through a pre-strategized list of URLs.

Using my URL listkeeper of choice, I right-click, the browser opens, and there’s the next site. I read the content, congratulate someone on a success, and before I get too involved, there’s KeePass staring at me from the screen with the other sites I’d planned to visit. I’ve included my email addresses and the social sites in the list.

With this method I find more of the good convention events in less time. Hopefully it evens out my attendance in various social rooms, too, so I visit friends who might otherwise feel shunned and don’t stay long enough in any one room to start being boorish.

I hope that idea helps anyone struggling with the oft-bemoaned Internet Time Sink.

Carolyn

P. S. I should set an alarm so I have a predetermined time limit to get through the list, shouldn’t I? There’s an idea.

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By: Freelancer Field Guide | Online Freelance Work https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-941 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:59:59 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-941 […] Kristine Kathryn Rusch » Freelancer’s Survival Guide: Online […]

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By: Ryan Viergutz https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-939 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:34:58 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-939 Fascinating comments! I find Mitch’s advice especially useful; I focus on Livejournal and Twitter and it makes a big difference.

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By: Jeremy J. Jones https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-938 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:58:48 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-938 Actually, I’ve been really lax in my tweets lately, and I haven’t found anyone irritated with me. I still get #FF’s and @writerwednesdays even though I’m posting about every 20 days.

And I still get new followers from those from time to time. I’d like to think I’ve made connections because I’m genuine. When I read something I enjoy, I make sure to tell the person, and they enjoy that, of course. And I like telling people I enjoy their work.

I’ve developed a camaraderie with some people without having ever met them. Fascinating.

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By: Patrick Alan https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-937 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:43:55 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-937 Russ, to me, it sounds like you are looking at it wrong. It sounds like you’re thinking about it from the side of followers/fans. That’s marketing.

I really like Neil’s quote. “I’m not sure if any [of what I do online] is networking.”

That’s really how I think of it, too. I’m making friends and meeting new people. I follow a couple hundred people and about the same number follow me on twitter. Of those, there’s probably 15-20 that I regularly converse with. I do it for fun. It’s not for networking. It’s being social. But at the same time, I follow people I am interested in. I am not trying to Network with Nathan Fillion. Caesar Milan follows back. I don’t think I am social or networked with Caesar Milan just because he follows me.

There are certainly strategies that people market with the same social tools, but most of us ignore it. Some unfollow. I don’t bother.

If you’re thinking about it as work –I need to tweet to get followers, it’s probably not worth it. But then again, there are some self-published authors with 10,000+ followers and I see a lot of links to their books in their tweets. Maybe it is working for them. I don’t know.

My thought is if you are doing it for fun, it’s not a time sink.

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By: Russ Crossley https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-936 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:28:12 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-936 If I understand what everyone is saying (of note Brenda’s comments) is you have to be able to manage time spent on social networks, and even then time spent on social networks will affect writing time. I know this seems obvious but web activity has the potential of becoming sink traps we can all very easily fall into, if we’re not careful. I think we all need to reassess our time spent on social networks every so often to determine if we’re still getting the value out of it we anticiapted, and to really measure how much time we’re spending. (We all love to lie to ourselves about how much time we’re spending on sink holes, don’t we )

The other important point in the article, from my perspective, is to treat this as an online party, or social gathering, and a chance to have conversations about a wide range of topics. I personally love to do this so this appeals to me, but also worries me a little.

Also, my perception is (and I’d love comments on this) once you have a “following” you have to keep up with tweeting etc on a regular basis or your “following” is going to be annoyed with you. To me this means I’m not in control as I am with my own blog.

Very worth while topic, Kris. Social networking on the web has been on my radar for some time.

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By: Thomas K Carpenter https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-935 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:41:38 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-935 I think those comments by the bloggers you polled were spot on. I have a modest niche tech-blog about augmented reality and those are the same rules that I’ve followed to get up to a readership of ~500/day.

Though now that I’ve listed my readership, I would also say its not about stats. It’s about meeting interesting people and having great conversations. I’ve been invited to speak at conferances and sat on panels because of my blog. I had never in a million years have thought that would happen, and I’m not even sure sometimes why I’m there, but its fun.

Even this morning I had a nice thrill. The Eyeborg guy (has a camera in his missing eye) started following me on twitter and tweeted that I have the best augmented reality blog out there. I’m mean, how cool is that? I have a cyborg following me on twitter! ;p

Btw, I’d also suggest Seth Godin or Tim Ferriss blogs (both non-fiction writers). I’ve learned a lot about social networking from reading their sites.

Tom

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By: Smart Bitch Sarah | Sarah Wendell, Man Titty Media Pundit https://kriswrites.com/2010/04/22/freelancers-survival-guide-online-networking-2-networking-part-eight/comment-page-1/#comment-934 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:02:34 +0000 https://kriswrites.com/?p=1864#comment-934 […] Rusch writes in her article about social networking about how she found me, the site, and my social network: If you haven’t read last week’s post on […]

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